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Post by Wes Penre on Oct 22, 2019 2:14:35 GMT
No one (and certainly not I) have said the Queen is perfect or all-knowing--not even the Divine Feminine (All That IS) is all-knowing. The Queen is here in this Universe to experience, just as we are. But Queen also means Divine, and although we are all divine, She IS the Creatrix, and we can't get around that. So, I can imagine that star beings look at her as a Queen--Lady of the Divine--because She created them, after all. However, I have firmly learned that the Queen would discard ANY worship that's directed toward Her. She would find worship of Her very odd, so I've learned. Worship is of this construct. Right, I agree with that. Again, if we look from the perspective of the ability to manifest which is innate to the substratum/substance of the universe, then she just happened to be the first though-form, the first conscious activity, that appeared in the substratum on it's highest vibrational level. And she simply discovered that ability to manifest, which is not her own ability, but the ability of the awareness substratum itself. Now, was she the only first one who started the whole universe, or were there perhaps other though-forms before or after her appearing in the substratum who then also started manifesting? We do not know, but logically there very well can be. If there can be a possibility of one first thought-form appearing in the substratum, why would it be limited to only one? We know for a fact from our experience that the variety of possibilities in the substratum is unlimited. That means that she is likely not the only one who started manifesting, and our universe is not the only one either. We just happened to be in this particular universe that was first manifested by this particular Mother. And we are not confined to this universe because we ourselves can manifest our own and the space of substratum has no limits. But again, we are not made of her, we are all made of the very same substratum. Yes, in a way she is our mother because she initiated our birth out of the substratum, or split us from her conscious activity, and we should be grateful to her for that. In the WPP I wrote that the Queen created ALL universes, in clusters of 12. I was comparing them to ponds for better understanding. wespenre.com/2019/01/30/second-level-of-learning-paper-2-creation-of-universes/ |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 2:29:20 GMT
Is there a Queen or not? If so, is she good or bad? Is Orion a trap? Is it a hierarchy? Are there even holes in the Grid? Well, I've given everybody MY research, so what can I say? Does the research make sense or not? Something for each individual to determine. I know what I am going to do, but everybody needs to work this out for themselves. Personally, I have no reason to change my mind about all this--I'm pretty steadfast and grounded in my own research and what Ariel and I have done together. But I understand it's not for everyone, and/or everybody does not see it the way I/we do, and that's fine. I know what I know, and the rest I need to trust that I can handle when the day comes. Feel free, of course, to continue discussing this if you like, but I can't think of anything more to say on this subject that I have not already said. That's for sure, but even after leaving the Patrix, my choice is to withdraw from lower dimensions altogether and stay on the highest spiritual levels only. I strongly feel that I learnt and experienced enough of what would need to be experienced on the lower dimensions and there is no reason for me to remain there anymore. I actually think we can go there directly without even going through the grid. So, instead of navigating our way through the grid on a horizontal level, we just disintegrate all our lower-dimensional bodies and go in a "vertical way" so to speak, as long as we have already developed a strong footage on the spiritual level so we know where to go. But I'm not going to argue about that, I understand that for many people this way may be too risky and going through the grid might be a safer way. But even if, on the other side of the grid, the KHAA turns out to be just another matrix/system (and there are reasons to suspect that in the lower dimensions all or at least most of the worlds are like that), then disintegrating lower-dimensional bodies and catapulting to the spiritual level would still remain an option. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 2:32:35 GMT
Well, yes, but how do you know or prove that? And how does your source know? Or even how does she know? If the substratum is infinite than and has infinite potential then how do you know that there is no other creators or universes in any other "place" of it? |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 2:37:35 GMT
"But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the gods themselves are later than creation (substratum),
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
he knows — or maybe even he does not know."
Rigveda
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Post by Wes Penre on Oct 22, 2019 2:46:43 GMT
Is there a Queen or not? If so, is she good or bad? Is Orion a trap? Is it a hierarchy? Are there even holes in the Grid? Well, I've given everybody MY research, so what can I say? Does the research make sense or not? Something for each individual to determine. I know what I am going to do, but everybody needs to work this out for themselves. Personally, I have no reason to change my mind about all this--I'm pretty steadfast and grounded in my own research and what Ariel and I have done together. But I understand it's not for everyone, and/or everybody does not see it the way I/we do, and that's fine. I know what I know, and the rest I need to trust that I can handle when the day comes. Feel free, of course, to continue discussing this if you like, but I can't think of anything more to say on this subject that I have not already said. That's for sure, but even after leaving the Patrix, my choice is to withdraw from lower dimensions altogether and stay on the highest spiritual levels only. I strongly feel that I learnt and experienced enough of what would need to be experienced on the lower dimensions and there is no reason for me to remain there anymore. I actually think we can go there directly without even going through the grid. So, instead of navigating our way through the grid on a horizontal level, we just disintegrate all our lower-dimensional bodies and go in a "vertical way" so to speak, as long as we have already developed a strong footage on the spiritual level so we know where to go. But I'm not going to argue about that, I understand that for many people this way may be too risky and going through the grid might be a safer way. But even if, on the other side of the grid, the KHAA turns out to be just another matrix/system (and there are reasons to suspect that in the lower dimensions all or at least most of the worlds are like that), then disintegrating lower-dimensional bodies and catapulting to the spiritual level would still remain an option. Well, it's up to each and everyone to decide how they want to exit the Patrix. But why do you think you will stay in the lower dimensions when you have exited the Grid? What is the difference if you do it your way? Don't you end up in the KHAA anyway? In the papers, I wrote about dimensions, and we've covered it thoroughly in our videos. All dimensions are available to you, and you choose from which perspective/dimension you want to create. And there is no need to disintegrate the lower light-bodies. They are of the Patrix and will dissolve--all of them--when you leave this Construct. Once out in the KHAA, you can go wherever you want. Is the KHAA a Matrix? Yes, of course it is--it's a universe with a blueprint in which we create. The KHAA is the REAL Matrix (while this is the Patrix). The other alternative, as I see it, is to be annihilated and dissolve and become ONE with the Universe again--your soul becomes pure energy and you lose your sense of self. Because we humans are Spirited, that part merges with the Divine Feminine as a part of Her, but you still don't have your personality intact. Your ability to think and create are soul attributes that you were born (soulwise) to use in THIS Universe (the KHAA). |
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Post by sahib on Oct 22, 2019 8:49:59 GMT
My final statement is like Wes wrote earlier and I quote:
"The way I see it is that we have two choices; we either stay here in the Patrix, and it seems that not many people want to do that on this forum, or we go through the Grid and we're in the KHAA. If someone finds a better alternative than the Grid, then go for that. But either way, we end up in the KHAA".
What vibration/dimension we will experience once in the KHAA will be determined by the soul themselves.
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 15:52:59 GMT
Wes, I agree with what you said. But I'd like to elaborate a bit on this subject from the spiritual perspective. The KHAA is a huge space of universes and dimensions from ultra high down to ultra low. You guys are very focused on exiting the Patrix, and it's really important, no question about that. But it's only a part of the liberation process. It's not enough to be liberated from the Patrix system. We always carry a part of that system in us when we are attached to lower dimensions, to their emotional thrills and sensual experiences. It's like a drug addiction. Yes, many of us smoked grass when we were young, some were addicted. That's ok, I'm not condemning that. But as we mature we don't need it anymore. What do you learn from those trips? Nothing, it's garbage in - garbage out. And that's how life is on lower dimensions. So I'm encouraging to look at it from a bigger perspective. I'm not saying that it's bad or wrong, and many souls may have their own reasons to remain in those dimensions. But just understand that it has heavy consequences. There is always a risk of geting stuck in another Partix-like system of hierarchy. Suffering, confusion and some degree of ignorance is almost inevitable in those dimensions.
So what's the alternative? It's not true that on the Spiritual dimension we completely lose our identity and totally merge with the Divine. But it is true that a sense of duality and separation is lost and we experience everything as just aspects and forms of One. So it is hard to draw the line and define whether inhabitants of the Spiritual realm (Eons) are souls or only aspects of the Divine. But it's not true that the ability to think and create is lost there. This ability is inherent to the Spirit as well, not only to the soul, but the Spirit thinks and creates in very different ways. There are an infinite number of creative and spiritual activities we can do there, it's full of life. Yes, it's intangible, non-sensual, non-emotional, those aspects are lost in the Spiritual realm. But even if it feels too sterile for you, there is a multitude of higher dimensional levels below the pure Spirit but still way higher than dense low dimensions, so you can reside there as well if you choose to. Again, I'm not saying that this is something we are supposed to do or should do. No, it's our free choice. I'm only saying that we always have this option.
In Gnostics scriptures, whether we believe them or not, the creation of lower-dimensional worlds by Sophia was described as "the fall of Sophia", as a mistake. Yes, she was newly born with no knowledge, she was very eager to know herself, to learn and gain experiences. So her creation was not an act of evil. But it should not have been done. Again, using the drug analogy, what do you learn from drug trips (other than you eventually realize that there is nothing to learn there)? She could get all the knowledge she would ever need over time if she would simply stay in Pleroma (the realm of Spirit). But now, once the creation started, she is kind of stuck here because she feels responsible for it, she can't just retrieve back to Pleroma and leave this KHAA universe without protection from the evil forces. On the other hand, she lost her control of the situation and she might be stuck here for a long time if not forever.
So, the point is. If you are invited to Orion and wand to join the Queen, it's fine. She is not perfect but not bad or evil in anyway. But it's the realm of lower dimensions. Just be aware that life there always has consequences and there is a price to pay. And remember that you always have alternative - going back to Pleroma. But it's not easy, you can't do it by snapping your fingers, you need to do spiritual work on yourself to get there. Hopefully on Orion you will not be restrained like here in the Partix and will always have an option to just leave whenever you want if you ever change your mind, or another option is to stay there but gradually ascend to Pleroma.
From my personal perspective, the only thing I learnt from smoking grass is realization that it was a waste of time and there was really nothing to learn. And the same applies to my life in lower dimensions. It was ok, I'm not beating myself for going there. But my lesson is: I will not do it again.
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 16:20:34 GMT
The other alternative, as I see it, is to be annihilated and dissolve and become ONE with the Universe again--your soul becomes pure energy and you lose your sense of self. Because we humans are Spirited, that part merges with the Divine Feminine as a part of Her, but you still don't have your personality intact. Your ability to think and create are soul attributes that you were born (soulwise) to use in THIS Universe (the KHAA). So this is where I don't agree with you, Wes. As I said above, on the level of Spirit (call it Pleroma) we do NOT necessarily dissolve and become annihilated, but yes, the sense of self, sense of duality and separation is lost there. But you don't lose the ability to think and create. It is hard to describe but I'm speaking from my experience. Yes, there is still another step further from the Pleroma to the still a choice and an option for us but it's not an inevitable consequence or obligation. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 16:22:43 GMT
Sorry, I meant to say:
Yes, there is still another step further from the Pleroma to the total annihilation, but it's still a choice and an option for us, it's not an inevitable consequence or obligation.
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Post by Gabriel on Oct 22, 2019 17:42:39 GMT
Wes, Queen (from this 3D standpoint), feels like it points to a titleship like a CEO of a company. Mother is much more different, more like you can go to her for anything...she understands you kinda way. Yes, I understand that Queen can be triggering because people make the connection to the Impostors, who are using this title to usurp and control. But in that case, I can't use Mother Goddess, either, because then Goddess is triggering. If I use Divine Feminine, that will certainly trigger some people, too. I have explained this thing with hierarchy and power both in the papers, in videos, and even more so here on the forum. People need to get over it. If they understand it's a trigger, it's time to change perspective, and the trigger will go away. Otherwise, we are putting on the victim mentality again. I need to use the term Queen because it's necessary for people to understand the inversion of this Construct. There is a lot in the information we share that might be triggering, but that's just how it is when we try to peel the onion. Part of our time here needs to be spent to overcome these things. If we can't even overcome these terms and titles--knowing that they are not the same as here in the Construct--how can we overcome any of the heavier stuff? Indeed, many of us do relate the word "Queen" to the imposters. It's abstract concept I feel has been hijacked to fit into "their" agenda (Enki being something he/she is not). Nothing wrong with the word "Mother" especailly from an Earth human standpoint. Its just goddess (which is perceived as a deity) that triggers something in the human psyche. I think Stranger2 is spot on about that god archetype still lingering in the human unconscious (which I firmly believe is due to when the AIF were more physically active in 3D way back then before ans perhaps after the flood) they sure did leave their imprint on the human psyche a traumatic one. This is only my assumption but from the looks of it, wouldn't it be fair to say (from an Earth human conscious viewpoint) that a bee in a colony would see the "Queen" bee as it's Mother? If this holds true ans we apply this to, lets say a star race (who has evolved into civilization in this realm of the universe), with the same conscious mind structure/genetics of an Earth bee, then wouldn't the citizen's of this bee star race still percive their Queen bee, as Mommy, just as their evolving ancestors, it's also my assumption that I doubt that trait would be lost. In relation to Robert Morning Sky research, this bee like star race would remind me of the "kheb" a bit different but similar, due to their insectiod similarities. It's up to the individual if they are ready to embark into the more heavier stuff. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 18:35:16 GMT
I still stand by my opinion that we cannot judge or understand anything that exists outside of this construct until we are outside of this construct. We are very, very, very heavily manipulated here - even within our own being/self/design, maybe even especially so. Well, true but not 100%. If this was the case 100% then we would never been capable of having even a slightest desire to leave the Partix. But because we are spirited and our Spirit resides beyond the Patrix we still hear the call from the Spirit, the call for uncompromised liberation, beauty, justice and truth. So we need to listen to our Spirit and never trust anything that comes from lower-dimensional levels of our consciousness or bodies because those were indeed heavily manipulated and implanted with patterns and mechanisms that forcefully embed us into the Patrix construct. I'm often observing in amazement how our human instincts, desires, wants and fears are perfectly fine-tuned to enable us to operate and to be firmly attached to the Partix construct. |
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Post by Gabriel on Oct 22, 2019 19:30:24 GMT
I still stand by my opinion that we cannot judge or understand anything that exists outside of this construct until we are outside of this construct. We are very, very, very heavily manipulated here - even within our own being/self/design, maybe even especially so. Well, true but not 100%. If this was the case 100% then we would never been capable of having even a slightest desire to leave the Partix. But because we are spirited and our Spirit resides beyond the Patrix we still hear the call from the Spirit, the call for uncompromised liberation, beauty, justice and truth. So we need to listen to our Spirit and never trust anything that comes from lower-dimensional levels of our consciousness or bodies because those were indeed heavily manipulated and implanted with patterns and mechanisms that forcefully embed us into the Patrix construct. I'm often observing in amazement how our human instincts, desires, wants and fears are perfectly fine-tuned to enable us to operate and to be firmly attached to the Partix construct. Stranger2, If we all come from the conscious substance (no matter who spontaneously showed up first in the Omniverse), then what do you think about the fire? aka the energy of the soul. "The ability to split is inherent in the nature of the substance of the universe. We all can do it once we gain back our abilities. When our physical cells divide from the mother's egg, they don't belong to the mother anymore and not made of her, they are just made of matter. Likewise, once we split from our parent on the spiritual level, it's not the parent's spirit anymore, the spirit is made of the Awareness"Going into the topic of parent and child souls, do you feel that a parent soul can strip their child soul of that same energy aka fire denying them the ability to create, "assuming" the child soul is an inseparable part of the parent soul, and even if it seperates is still connected to the parent. Whats your take on this? |
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Post by Wes Penre on Oct 22, 2019 19:45:47 GMT
The other alternative, as I see it, is to be annihilated and dissolve and become ONE with the Universe again--your soul becomes pure energy and you lose your sense of self. Because we humans are Spirited, that part merges with the Divine Feminine as a part of Her, but you still don't have your personality intact. Your ability to think and create are soul attributes that you were born (soulwise) to use in THIS Universe (the KHAA). So this is where I don't agree with you, Wes. As I said above, on the level of Spirit (call it Pleroma) we do NOT necessarily dissolve and become annihilated, but yes, the sense of self, sense of duality and separation is lost there. But you don't lose the ability to think and create. It is hard to describe but I'm speaking from my experience. Yes, there is still another step further from the Pleroma to the still a choice and an option for us but it's not an inevitable consequence or obligation. In no way am I doubting your experiences--I have no reason to believe you didn't have them. What I am concerned about (just something to think about maybe) is this; even though you have experienced what you have experienced, how do you know it's outside the Construct? The Gnostics talked about the Pleroma, but they were NOT in contact with the KHAA--I know that for a fact. Where did they get all this Pleroma narrative from? Some of it was OBEs, that has been fairly well established, and the other information they got from "Jesus." How reliable is that? How do we know we're out of the Grid if we don't go through the Grid. See Ariel's link to the WingMakers. He is right on when it comes to these implants (in the artificial soul). This is why Ariel and I are stressing to go through the Grid. If we do, we ARE out of the Construct, at least. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 20:14:22 GMT
How do we know we're out of the Grid if we don't go through the Grid. See Ariel's link to the WingMakers. He is right on when it comes to these implants (in the artificial soul). This is why Ariel and I are stressing to go through the Grid. If we do, we ARE out of the Construct, at least. Again, nothing here can be 100% proven, but here is my take based on my experience in the spiritual realm. The very fact that from the spirit perspective I, as well as you, can clearly expose and see all the faults and wrongs of the Partix and feel that it's just not right, tells me that this level is outside of the Partix control. Otherwise it would be highjacked by overlords long time ago and we even would not have a slightest ability to question the system and have a desire to leave. I just know for a fact that on the spiritual level it's just not possible to have a compromise on the truth, justice and beauty even in a slightest way, so there is no way any Partix-like construct can exist or extend there. Even from technology point of view, the grid is "electromagnetic" and only works in lower material/astral-like dimensions, I don't believe it extends to the spiritual level. I think Gnostics felt the same way, although their scriptures are quite erratic and are a mixed bag of confusions with glimpses of truth, I'm sure the overlords tried hard to distort their spiritual insights by sending their agents to the Gnostic communities and altering the scripts. So when we look at spiritual traditions like Gnosticism or Buddhism that I believe indeed have glimpses of spiritual truths and insights from outside of the Patrix, but also absorbed a lot of misinformation from Partix sources over time, we should be very careful and use our spiritual discretion a lot. But if we just discard them based on our fears to pick up some Patrix-poisoned ideas, we may loose some important insights and clues. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 20:34:57 GMT
"The ability to split is inherent in the nature of the substance of the universe. We all can do it once we gain back our abilities. When our physical cells divide from the mother's egg, they don't belong to the mother anymore and not made of her, they are just made of matter. Likewise, once we split from our parent on the spiritual level, it's not the parent's spirit anymore, the spirit is made of the Awareness"Going into the topic of parent and child souls, do you feel that a parent soul can strip their child soul of that same energy aka fire denying them the ability to create, "assuming" the child soul is an inseparable part of the parent soul, and even if it seperates is still connected to the parent. Whats your take on this? No, as I said before, I don't believe the child soul is inseparable from the parent and that a parent soul has any control or is capable to withdraw/deny any capabilities from the child. I don't believe there is any connection to the parent soul other than a free connection of communication. This is because we are not made of soul-substance, we are made of the substance of the universe, the awareness. The souls are only forms, conscious activities in the awareness. Once the child activity is split form the parent activity, it then goes on its own. It's like the waves on the ocean - they do not exist as something separate from the ocean, they are just forms that the ocean takes. When a wave is split into two, both go their own way independently. But they are never separate from the ocean. But the ocean is not a soul, it's not God, it does not intentionally create anything, it has no personality or intent of its own, because any personality or intent would already be a form. It's the consciousness-awareness substratum of the universe that is formless by nature but has a potential to take any possible form. Every spirited being has an ability to discover this ground-awareness on the spiritual level and then experientially see the whole world as a non-dual play of pure forms of awareness. |
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Post by Gabriel on Oct 22, 2019 20:59:22 GMT
"The ability to split is inherent in the nature of the substance of the universe. We all can do it once we gain back our abilities. When our physical cells divide from the mother's egg, they don't belong to the mother anymore and not made of her, they are just made of matter. Likewise, once we split from our parent on the spiritual level, it's not the parent's spirit anymore, the spirit is made of the Awareness"Going into the topic of parent and child souls, do you feel that a parent soul can strip their child soul of that same energy aka fire denying them the ability to create, "assuming" the child soul is an inseparable part of the parent soul, and even if it seperates is still connected to the parent. Whats your take on this? No, as I said before, I don't believe the child soul is inseparable from the parent and that a parent soul has any control or is capable to withdraw/deny any capabilities from the child. I don't believe there is any connection to the parent soul other than a free connection of communication. This is because we are not made of soul-substance, we are made of the substance of the universe, the awareness. The souls are only forms, conscious activities in the awareness. Once the child activity is split form the parent activity, it then goes on its own. It's like the waves on the ocean - they do not exist as something separate from the ocean, they are just forms that the ocean takes. When a wave is split into two, both go their own way independently. But they are never separate from the ocean. But the ocean is not a soul, it's not God, it does not intentionally create anything, it has no personality or intent of its own, because any personality or intent would already be a form. It's the consciousness-awareness substratum of the universe that is formless by nature but has a potential to take any possible form. Every spirited being has an ability to discover this ground-awareness on the spiritual level and then experientially see the whole world as a non-dual play of pure forms of awareness. Hmmm I see. So do you think it's plausible that souls are really just spontaneously generated in the, consciousness-awareness substratum of the universe/Omniverse? And if this is the case then souls are mortal in a sense. My perspective on this is that the consciousness-awareness substratum must be the only thing that is truly immortal (always existed). Which means the soul can still "die", however what about spirited beings? I truly wonder why this patrix exist. Apparently it's to feed on our soul energy. If there are predators in most (not all) levels of exsitence, and if we are in the lower realms then what if the AIF are really parasitic predators from the start. Why do you think this patrix exist if not for harvesting energy from souls? |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 21:03:38 GMT
Wes, I understand your suspicions about spiritual practices and ascending to the spiritual dimension because it so much reminds the ascension within the Patrix. But the same argument applies here: the Partix ascension path is a blueprint of the spiritual ascension that they highjacked to promote souls to the roles of the guides to work for the system. They need an army of those guides to watch for the herd so they set up this "ascension" promotion system. The Partix ascension path does lead to some higher dimensions but it does not clear the spirit from Patrix implants and indoctrinations, in fact they become even stronger there. And it never leads to the realm of the pure Spirit, it actually leads away from it. Basically they are climbing up, but climbing up a wrong mountain, so when they get to the top of it they are even further from the "true" mountain top of the Spirit. To go back they need first to descend to the bottom and then climb up again the right mountain. This higher-dimensional structure of the universe is not linear, climbing up the dimensions does not always lead to the realm of the Spirit.
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 21:16:14 GMT
My perspective on this is that the consciousness-awareness substratum must be the only thing that is truly immortal (always existed). Which means the soul can still "die", however what about spirited beings? I truly wonder why this patrix exist. Apparently it's to feed on our soul energy. If there are predators in most (not all) levels of exsitence, and if we are in the lower realms then what if the AIF are really parasitic predators from the start. Why do you think this patrix exist if not for harvesting energy from souls? You are exactly right, Gabriel, and the soul even on the spirit level can actually die in a sense that it gets dissolved into the Divine substratum. Wes also mentioned this and I agree with him. This does not mean that the spirited beings are destined to die, they can live forever if they chose to, or they can disintegrate if they chose to. I do not know the technological details of how exactly the AIF feeds on our energy but it seems to be the case that they indeed need our soul energy and that's the reason why they built the Partix. AIF are spiritless predators, they have no concept of compassion or justice, they just use us for their purposes as their cattle. |
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Post by Stranger2 on Oct 22, 2019 21:45:25 GMT
Yes, I do see it as plausible and quite logical and reasonable assumption. As the substratum has none of it's own intent, the universe and the spirit/soul beings are generated spontaneously and they are simply conscious activities in the substratum. The souls do not exist as some real or separate entities. So, in a way, you can say that there is no "self" in our souls as some real entity, but in another way, there is a self, but only as an activity of the awareness, not as an entity. The awareness is the only "entity" (but I don't know if the word "entity" applies here) that really exists, everything else in the universe are just forms that the awareness takes.
So also, this is why I believe there is not a single Goddess-Mother who created the whole universe and other souls, but there have been many of such soul-seeds. Because if the substratum has a potential to spontaneously generate souls, why would it be only limited to one parent-soul? And I don't think it makes a difference if a soul was spontaneously generated in the substratum or was "cloned" from some other parent soul.
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Post by Gabriel on Oct 22, 2019 22:56:34 GMT
My perspective on this is that the consciousness-awareness substratum must be the only thing that is truly immortal (always existed). Which means the soul can still "die", however what about spirited beings? I truly wonder why this patrix exist. Apparently it's to feed on our soul energy. If there are predators in most (not all) levels of exsitence, and if we are in the lower realms then what if the AIF are really parasitic predators from the start. Why do you think this patrix exist if not for harvesting energy from souls? You are exactly right, Gabriel, and the soul even on the spirit level can actually die in a sense that it gets dissolved into the Divine substratum. Wes also mentioned this and I agree with him. This does not mean that the spirited beings are destined to die, they can live forever if they chose to, or they can disintegrate if they chose to. I do not know the technological details of how exactly the AIF feeds on our energy but it seems to be the case that they indeed need our soul energy and that's the reason why they built the Partix. AIF are spiritless predators, they have no concept of compassion or justice, they just use us for their purposes as their cattle. It's clear now that "our" souls are mortal. If we take into consideration the survival aspect of the lower realms of the Omniverse, then no doubt if "one" chooses to "play" here, and if they don't want to be preyed upon by (basically not "die") by predators (who are inherently not spirited, their given natures also correlates to the inference that not all beings are created in the same fashion) then joining a community (a world/star race?), would be necessary for that souls survival. I believe these communities would turn out to become hierarchies, especially if were playing with scarcity of resources, would also explain cosmic wars, if we apply as above so below then the creatures of the heavens are just like us in "3D" however this assumption only applies to the lower realms. Let me ask you this. What do you think ....is the structure of this patrix artificial or is it apart of the consciousness awarness structure of the Omniverse. Hmm let me put it this way. In your knowledge soo far or perception of thing as they are now, are we in a legit simulation or are we just spirited beings just temporarily "trapped" in a very sophisticated energetic multidimensional system in the lower realms? |
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