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Post by Wes Penre on Aug 19, 2019 13:16:06 GMT
I would like to make a comment here. It could be if your mom and dad are aspects of your Higher Self they could leave also with you. Same time, maybe later. If they are not aspects of your Higher Self, they will go to your funeral and say goodbye, because our body is Earth property so to speak and has to stay here. When we leave this Earth we arrive in the Astral World and there we can go through the Grid. We're not on Earth anymore, we have died and all memories of our life on Earth will stay on Earth as usual. We only take our own experience with us. Ye, when i ponder about it. This makes more sense. But how do i know if i come across another aspect of myself? Isnt it pretty unlikely? Is there a check list to go thorough? Okay so i can have more aspects of my self in this timeline where Alex exist and in all the other timelines too as stated in the latest video 172. Yes. What about what we call twin-flames and soul mates? 
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Post by sahib on Aug 19, 2019 14:38:25 GMT
We all suffer AMNESIA remember! Thanks to the BLA system En.Ki put us in.
We will never know for sure which aspect is part of our own Higher Self, but we can suspect some to be….
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Post by sahib on Aug 19, 2019 14:58:24 GMT
Recently I received a question from one of our members asking about the existence of the Grid. I asked that person permission to post my answer on this forum and here it is:
What do you think the Grid is? What does it look like to you?
In this life we experience a dense world, everything is solid, we ourselves are solid, the walls are solid... But when we leave this plane aka we die and leave our body we're not solid anymore, we're non-physical and we enter a non-physical world aka the Astral World. Just like this physical world we now live in has boundaries, the Astral World has also boundaries.
This physical World we live in consist of a low frequency that makes everything dense and solid; the Astral World consists of a higher frequency, so everything there is of a higher vibration. The boundary of this Astral World consists of a frequency that is higher than the frequency of the Astral World itself, thus everything that consists of the same frequency as the Astral World cannot penetrate or cross that boundary.
After discovering the possibility to leave this 'prison planet' we get interested. The moment we decide to leave this Earthly construct, we begin to change our attitude, our vibration, our frequency will rise while still being in this construct. We begin to feel that there's no place anymore for us here in this construct; often we feel very lonely, don't belong anymore in this world, people around us notice that we are changed, we show more empathy, more compassion, no attachments to anybody, even family and friends and lovers, we're changed. Those are signs that we have raised your frequency.
The more our frequency is raised, the easier it will be to penetrate the frequency boundary in the Astral World aka to go through a hole in the Grid (boundary) in the Astral World. But first we have to die and then we will have the opportunity to wander in the Astral World. Many people have totally no idea what to expect after they die, so they are very easy prey for the Overlords to get them in the tunnel and get them to the light to the BLA (Between Live Area) where we will be prepared for a next incarnation in 3D.
But when we are confident to go our own way, maybe we want to look around first (that's totally fine), nobody can stop us for looking for the boundaries of the Astral World and go through it. Because our frequency matches the frequency of this boundary we will pass through and next we will find ourselves in the KHAA. And from there I don't exactly know what to expect but trust your Higher Self, you will know what to do....
By the way, if you want to know more about the Astral World, read Robert A. Monroe's books about his travels and interactions in these Astral World.
I hope I've made some things more clear about my thoughts regarding escaping through a hole in the Grid.
Namaste.
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Post by Wes Penre on Aug 19, 2019 20:57:35 GMT
Recently I received a question from one of our members asking about the existence of the Grid. I asked that person permission to post my answer on this forum and here it is: What do you think the Grid is? What does it look like to you?
In this life we experience a dense world, everything is solid, we ourselves are solid, the walls are solid... But when we leave this plane aka we die and leave our body we're not solid anymore, we're non-physical and we enter a non-physical world aka the Astral World. Just like this physical world we now live in has boundaries, the Astral World has also boundaries.
This physical World we live in consist of a low frequency that makes everything dense and solid; the Astral World consists of a higher frequency, so everything there is of a higher vibration. The boundary of this Astral World consists of a frequency that is higher than the frequency of the Astral World itself, thus everything that consists of the same frequency as the Astral World cannot penetrate or cross that boundary.
After discovering the possibility to leave this 'prison planet' we get interested. The moment we decide to leave this Earthly construct, we begin to change our attitude, our vibration, our frequency will rise while still being in this construct. We begin to feel that there's no place anymore for us here in this construct; often we feel very lonely, don't belong anymore in this world, people around us notice that we are changed, we show more empathy, more compassion, no attachments to anybody, even family and friends and lovers, we're changed. Those are signs that we have raised your frequency.
The more our frequency is raised, the easier it will be to penetrate the frequency boundary in the Astral World aka to go through a hole in the Grid (boundary) in the Astral World. But first we have to die and then we will have the opportunity to wander in the Astral World. Many people have totally no idea what to expect after they die, so they are very easy prey for the Overlords to get them in the tunnel and get them to the light to the BLA (Between Live Area) where we will be prepared for a next incarnation in 3D.
But when we are confident to go our own way, maybe we want to look around first (that's totally fine), nobody can stop us for looking for the boundaries of the Astral World and go through it. Because our frequency matches the frequency of this boundary we will pass through and next we will find ourselves in the KHAA. And from there I don't exactly know what to expect but trust your Higher Self, you will know what to do....
By the way, if you want to know more about the Astral World, read Robert A. Monroe's books about his travels and interactions in these Astral World.
I hope I've made some things more clear about my thoughts regarding escaping through a hole in the Grid.
Namaste. This is a very good answer, IMO. My only personal comment is about exploring the astral. Essentially, there is nothing wrong in doing that, but there is a lot of trickery going on in the astral--particularly after we've died. I am not sure, at the point of death, that we can trust ourselves enough to bypass all the layers of entrapment without risking to accidentally fall into one of them. This is of course up to each one, but it's because we want to make sure this won't happen that I've suggested that we go through the Grid as soon as we spot it (and the holes). That's the safest route. Then, when being on the other side, we can explore, if we wish...
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Aug 20, 2019 2:51:16 GMT
Let's say that person A figures things out and exits in this lifetime. And with your #1 possibility person A leaves and all aspects of self are retrieved does that mean that on earth you are completely erased from this patrix, all your history is gone, no trace of you living here gone? So that would create a ripple with all the other players you have played with, how does that work? 🌹💙 I’m just making an educated guess here, but I would think that you (the primary consciousness) upon leaving, and once you’re completely out, either Divine Feminine or those She has commissioned—some of our Namlu’u family who made it safely out of Tiamaat maybe—would aid with the retrieval of our other sparks, so to speak. Maybe your other selves who’s been living their lifetimes, those living in other timelines, after being collected, will be given a period of rest, or reassembled within you while you’re resting, and/or going through “rememberance” and debriefing. Regarding being completely erased from this patrix, my take on it is what you did here is imprinted within the Akashic records, as well as your past interactions with others who are still here—the thoughts and memories of you would still be retained within their consciousness. However, these are just my opinions here, and I must say you raise some good points.
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Post by Wes Penre on Aug 20, 2019 11:03:48 GMT
Let's say that person A figures things out and exits in this lifetime. And with your #1 possibility person A leaves and all aspects of self are retrieved does that mean that on earth you are completely erased from this patrix, all your history is gone, no trace of you living here gone? So that would create a ripple with all the other players you have played with, how does that work? 🌹💙 I’m just making an educated guess here, but I would think that you (the primary consciousness) upon leaving, and once you’re completely out, either Divine Feminine or those She has commissioned—some of our Namlu’u family who made it safely out of Tiamaat maybe—would aid with the retrieval of our other sparks, so to speak. Maybe your other selves who’s been living their lifetimes, those living in other timelines, after being collected, will be given a period of rest, or reassembled within you while you’re resting, and/or going through “rememberance” and debriefing. Regarding being completely erased from this patrix, my take on it is what you did here is imprinted within the Akashic records, as well as your past interactions with others who are still here—the thoughts and memories of you would still be retained within their consciousness. However, these are just my opinions here, and I must say you raise some good points. I love this! People here are really thinking long and hard on these things, and the questions and comments are great and thought-provoking! Thank you, Gene, Sicily, and everybody else who are not just pondering this (which is great enough), but are also sharing their thoughts, questions, and comments. We all learn from that. We're working on more videos on this topic, which we feel is very important for the whole picture. The next public video will most probably be on this subject, as well, unless we throw in a Q&A between... Love you all! Wes
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Aug 20, 2019 15:16:51 GMT
🌹💙 Yessssss—this is all very exciting—thank you Wes and Ariel for your guidance and for the spiritually thought-provoking material; and hats off to everyone who is a courageous spirit with pondering and interacting here and in the other mediums which are connected. My response above to Sicily caused me to think even more deeply (thank you Sicily)—the sequel to my two cents above is kinda like this; we’re in the patrix and when we leave the patrix, our other aspects—our other sparks of consciousness—living in other timelines will be retrieved simultaneously or soon afterwards; but what we said and did stays behind recorded in the Akashic. This reminds me of the slogan “ What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas,” but you don’t stay in Vegas—you continue onward leaving it all behind. Those people left in Vegas will remember you, what you said and did, and your memory will remain within their consciousness there. Regarding the Namlu’u, our family who made it out of Tiamaat before they could become trapped here like us; I’d like to think that a significant number of them decided to stay with this experiment and not progress forward as Creators (for the time being); that they stayed behind to help us so that we could all move forward together (in one go), as was the plan before this “software virus” took over our existence. Maybe if that is the case, by choosing to stay, putting their forward progress on hold, and helping with our retrieval, the a Namlu’u are advancing spiritually in this way just as much, but doing so by aiding us, and that benefits everyone including our Queen—learning about Herself a little more by the Namlu’us decision to stay with the experiment. I’m sure other Namlu’u were given the option to continue onward with their development as Creators with no incrimination against them. If I am missing the mark here, I hope to be realigned with the upcoming videos and other materials. Blessings to all who read and consider.
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Post by sicily on Aug 20, 2019 18:09:24 GMT
I have been thinking along these lines. Person A leaves, takes all aspects of self with them, so it almost like they don't have a history and have never been here within the Patrix history,......so it almost like you never had the earth experience and you in the KHAA can continue on where you left off before you made the Earth detour. It almost like that experience never happened (Patrix) except with the memories you have now in the KHAA and elsewhere.
If so those people you had history with will have to take on another timeline where they did not interact with you so you leaving really changes the whole Patrix down to the very last person and pet you had.
Also thinking of Narcissists, the cult of personality and celebrity, they want to be remembered through out all of time, like their master Enki, (the pitch goes like this "don't you want to be the next big star and been known throughout history, here sign this" so erasing your personal history for them is unacceptable, they are so attached to the synthetic soul they do not want to be forgotten and this is also why some people will not leave, because here in the Patrix their history leaves with them.
So when you leave this Patrix you are really really leaving and Enki will have to erase your history (the akashic records) why would he have that in the records of people leaving his Patrix, he will have to wipe out your history.
Just thinking outloud.
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Post by sahib on Aug 20, 2019 22:04:59 GMT
I heard your thoughts, just some comments:
Sicily, why do you think that when leaving this construct with all other aspects that your history in 3D will be erased? Before you can leave this construct you first have to die and leave your body behind. This goes also for all other aspects of your Higher Self. So memories of you are left behind on this Earth with everybody you have a history with.(family, friends, lovers, etc.)
Remember that you yourself are also an aspect of your Higher Self and ONLY your Higher Self decides what will happen next.
When you leave this construct, first you leave your body behind, then you can leave as a non-physical being through a hole in the Grid in the Astral Plane.
The reason why some people will not leave this construct is because they CANNOT! They don't posses the right soulfire to pass the Grid or to enter the KHAA. That's also why they are not interested in the knowledge about leaving the Patrix!
Content of the Akashic Records cannot be erased, they are read-only. Even everything En.Ki has done is recorded in the Akashic and cannot be erased.
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Post by Wes Penre on Aug 21, 2019 2:21:34 GMT
I have been thinking along these lines. Person A leaves, takes all aspects of self with them, so it almost like they don't have a history and have never been here within the Patrix history,......so it almost like you never had the earth experience and you in the KHAA can continue on where you left off before you made the Earth detour. It almost like that experience never happened (Patrix) except with the memories you have now in the KHAA and elsewhere. If so those people you had history with will have to take on another timeline where they did not interact with you so you leaving really changes the whole Patrix down to the very last person and pet you had. Also thinking of Narcissists, the cult of personality and celebrity, they want to be remembered through out all of time, like their master Enki, (the pitch goes like this "don't you want to be the next big star and been known throughout history, here sign this" so erasing your personal history for them is unacceptable, they are so attached to the synthetic soul they do not want to be forgotten and this is also why some people will not leave, because here in the Patrix their history leaves with them. So when you leave this Patrix you are really really leaving and Enki will have to erase your history (the akashic records) why would he have that in the records of people leaving his Patrix, he will have to wipe out your history. Just thinking outloud. Lots of great thinking going on here  . Tomorrow, we are going to release a follow-up video on this subject, and these questions will be addressed in it -- this and many other things people have discussed and pondered...will be interesting to see what you guys think!
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Aug 21, 2019 7:02:39 GMT
🌹💙 Awesome post Sahib—I completely agree with you! Your knowledge in that statement is unknown by 99% of the people trapped here on EArth. Continue sharing your thoughts, I enjoy reading them. Blessings!
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Post by Nataša on Sept 3, 2019 19:58:49 GMT
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Post by Wes Penre on Sept 3, 2019 22:29:59 GMT
I read this article and paraphrased it to Ariel, who knows she's read something similar in the past--probably on GLP, she says, but it's not exactly the same story. For those who haven't read it, it's about a guy who was so badly beaten up on the street that he had an NDE. Without realizing that he's left his body, in the NDE he met a girl that he became madly in love with. They married, got two children, and he lived with her for what he perceived 10 years.Then, one day, he saw that something was wrong with a lamp in his house--it was inverted. He got obsessed with that lamp to such a degree that his wife was afraid he'd lost his mind, and she eventually left him and took the kids with her. Still, he couldn't stop looking at that lamp. Then, he suddenly realized that it was not real--nothing was real...his wife, kids, the environment, although as physical as this one--nothing was real. Next, he woke up on the street and a police drove him to the hospital. He recovered physically, but it took him 3 years to come over the loss of his family that "never existed." So what happened here? This is my explanation, based on all that we've learned, but feel free to come with your own ideas, if you like, because I could of course be wrong: The guy had an NDE and went to the etheric realm, which is the dimension or density next to this one, but it's non-physical from our perspective. OBE practitioners go to this realm first, before they move on to the next. It is almost a copy of this 3D realm--only slightly different, and when you go there, it looks just as physical as this one. Some meet their spirit guides there---Wm. Buhlman (experienced OBE'er) saw his guide sitting on a chair on the other side of the room when he was in this close-by dimension, and the guide was just as physical as can be. I can imagine that it's possible for a soul who doesn't know he's dead (or close to death) to think up something like the person in the story did--Seth in the Seth Material does this all the time, and everybody else of his non-physical friends, as well. They experience it being just as physical as we do here. It's possible that this guy in the story just thought it up and created thought-forms all around him, resembling a complete reality with people in it and everything. He is using his own soul energy to create all this and in the non-3D dimensions, time is arbitrary and very subjective. Then, when he comes back to 3D life again on the street, he just changes perspective/dimension, and he's back in his other creation, where he was beaten up. This is completely unreal for most people, but all the research we've done lately points toward that this might have been the case. The thought-forms will still be there, but not as energized. However, like Seth said, once you've created these thought-forms with your own soul energy, they get a life of their own. So, the guy on the street, if he had a new NDE, could easily energize the same reality again, only that this time he knows it's not "real" so it won't have the same impact. However, it IS real--just as real as this. We are ALSO living in a dream--everything we experience here is created in our minds, remember? Thanks for posting this, Natasa. This is VERY interesting. The movie Inception comes to mind with Leonardo di Caprio (did I spell that right? LOL)
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Sept 4, 2019 1:39:38 GMT
I read this article and paraphrased it to Ariel, who knows she's read something similar in the past--probably on GLP, she says, but it's not exactly the same story. For those who haven't read it, it's about a guy who was so badly beaten up on the street that he had an NDE. Without realizing that he's left his body, in the NDE he met a girl that he became madly in love with. They married, got two children, and he lived with her for what he perceived 10 years.Then, one day, he saw that something was wrong with a lamp in his house--it was inverted. He got obsessed with that lamp to such a degree that his wife was afraid he'd lost his mind, and she eventually left him and took the kids with her. Still, he couldn't stop looking at that lamp. Then, he suddenly realized that it was not real--nothing was real...his wife, kids, the environment, although as physical as this one--nothing was real. Next, he woke up on the street and a police drove him to the hospital. He recovered physically, but it took him 3 years to come over the loss of his family that "never existed." So what happened here? This is my explanation, based on all that we've learned, but feel free to come with your own ideas, if you like, because I could of course be wrong: The guy had an NDE and went to the etheric realm, which is the dimension or density next to this one, but it's non-physical from our perspective. OBE practitioners go to this realm first, before they move on to the next. It is almost a copy of this 3D realm--only slightly different, and when you go there, it looks just as physical as this one. Some meet their spirit guides there---Wm. Buhlman (experienced OBE'er) saw his guide sitting on a chair on the other side of the room when he was in this close-by dimension, and the guide was just as physical as can be. I can imagine that it's possible for a soul who doesn't know he's dead (or close to death) to think up something like the person in the story did--Seth in the Seth Material does this all the time, and everybody else of his non-physical friends, as well. They experience it being just as physical as we do here. It's possible that this guy in the story just thought it up and created thought-forms all around him, resembling a complete reality with people in it and everything. He is using his own soul energy to create all this and in the non-3D dimensions, time is arbitrary and very subjective. Then, when he comes back to 3D life again on the street, he just changes perspective/dimension, and he's back in his other creation, where he was beaten up. This is completely unreal for most people, but all the research we've done lately points toward that this might have been the case. The thought-forms will still be there, but not as energized. However, like Seth said, once you've created these thought-forms with your own soul energy, they get a life of their own. So, the guy on the street, if he had a new NDE, could easily energize the same reality again, only that this time he knows it's not "real" so it won't have the same impact. However, it IS real--just as real as this. We are ALSO living in a dream--everything we experience here is created in our minds, remember? Thanks for posting this, Natasa. This is VERY interesting. The movie Inception comes to mind with Leonardo di Caprio (did I spell that right? LOL) 🌹💙 When I was younger, I was married to a lady who was from Morocco. She told me relationships similar to this are more common than many people realize—not a NDE relationship, but actual relationships between people here and spirits from the other-side—the astral—similar in a manner of speaking. She told me about one of her uncles who lived back in the old country; (he was human just like you and I), and that he had this spirit wife and together they had two or three spirit children. My wife said it was a usual practice for her uncle to set place-settings and chairs, at the table, at dinner time for his spirit wife and children. I personally thought this was far-fetched, maybe even a mental illness her uncle had; but my wife at the time assured me that human/spirit families (with spouses and children) are a common thing in many underdeveloped countries. Idk how these relationships begin, if they are with jinn or with individuals similar to what’s mentioned above, but reading the above reminded me of what my wife told me many years ago. I have no reason to believe she was lying to me. Truth is stranger than fiction!
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Post by Wes Penre on Sept 4, 2019 2:21:20 GMT
I read this article and paraphrased it to Ariel, who knows she's read something similar in the past--probably on GLP, she says, but it's not exactly the same story. For those who haven't read it, it's about a guy who was so badly beaten up on the street that he had an NDE. Without realizing that he's left his body, in the NDE he met a girl that he became madly in love with. They married, got two children, and he lived with her for what he perceived 10 years.Then, one day, he saw that something was wrong with a lamp in his house--it was inverted. He got obsessed with that lamp to such a degree that his wife was afraid he'd lost his mind, and she eventually left him and took the kids with her. Still, he couldn't stop looking at that lamp. Then, he suddenly realized that it was not real--nothing was real...his wife, kids, the environment, although as physical as this one--nothing was real. Next, he woke up on the street and a police drove him to the hospital. He recovered physically, but it took him 3 years to come over the loss of his family that "never existed." So what happened here? This is my explanation, based on all that we've learned, but feel free to come with your own ideas, if you like, because I could of course be wrong: The guy had an NDE and went to the etheric realm, which is the dimension or density next to this one, but it's non-physical from our perspective. OBE practitioners go to this realm first, before they move on to the next. It is almost a copy of this 3D realm--only slightly different, and when you go there, it looks just as physical as this one. Some meet their spirit guides there---Wm. Buhlman (experienced OBE'er) saw his guide sitting on a chair on the other side of the room when he was in this close-by dimension, and the guide was just as physical as can be. I can imagine that it's possible for a soul who doesn't know he's dead (or close to death) to think up something like the person in the story did--Seth in the Seth Material does this all the time, and everybody else of his non-physical friends, as well. They experience it being just as physical as we do here. It's possible that this guy in the story just thought it up and created thought-forms all around him, resembling a complete reality with people in it and everything. He is using his own soul energy to create all this and in the non-3D dimensions, time is arbitrary and very subjective. Then, when he comes back to 3D life again on the street, he just changes perspective/dimension, and he's back in his other creation, where he was beaten up. This is completely unreal for most people, but all the research we've done lately points toward that this might have been the case. The thought-forms will still be there, but not as energized. However, like Seth said, once you've created these thought-forms with your own soul energy, they get a life of their own. So, the guy on the street, if he had a new NDE, could easily energize the same reality again, only that this time he knows it's not "real" so it won't have the same impact. However, it IS real--just as real as this. We are ALSO living in a dream--everything we experience here is created in our minds, remember? Thanks for posting this, Natasa. This is VERY interesting. The movie Inception comes to mind with Leonardo di Caprio (did I spell that right? LOL) 🌹💙 When I was younger, I was married to a lady who was from Morocco. She told me relationships similar to this are more common than many people realize—not a NDE relationship, but actual relationships between people here and spirits from the other-side—the astral—similar in a manner of speaking. She told me about one of her uncles who lived back in the old country; (he was human just like you and I), and that he had this spirit wife and together they had two or three spirit children. My wife said it was a usual practice for her uncle to set place-settings and chairs, at the table, at dinner time for his spirit wife and children. I personally thought this was far-fetched, maybe even a mental illness her uncle had; but my wife at the time assured me that human/spirit families (with spouses and children) are a common thing in many underdeveloped countries. Idk how these relationships begin, if they are with jinn or with individuals similar to what’s mentioned above, but reading the above reminded me of what my wife told me many years ago. I have no reason to believe she was lying to me. Truth is stranger than fiction! Thanks for sharing this, Gene. This is amazing...I had no idea about this.
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Sept 4, 2019 2:59:04 GMT
🌹💙 I forgot to mention—I assumed it was understood in my post—unlike the man who experienced the NDE relationship, people like my ex-wife’s uncle are fully aware that their spirit spouses and spirit children are in another dimension. However—to be honest—I don’t know whether the spirit spouse and spirit children are aware that they’re NOT in this dimension. Apparently, many relationships of this nature are in the Middle East and India. I don’t know why someone would enter into this arrangement unless in their religion’s paradigm there’s “merit” tied to it.
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Post by Ariel on Sept 4, 2019 3:37:05 GMT
🌹💙 I forgot to mention—I assumed it was understood in my post—unlike the man who experienced the NDE relationship, people like my ex-wife’s uncle are fully aware that their spirit spouses and spirit children are in another dimension. However—to be honest—I don’t know whether the spirit spouse and spirit children are aware that they’re NOT in this dimension. Apparently, many relationships of this nature are in the Middle East and India. I don’t know why someone would enter into this arrangement unless in their religion’s paradigm there’s “merit” tied to it. This is so bizarre that I can't wrap my mind around it.  I just don't understand how something like this works. edit - "spirit children"? What? What does that mean? How can a spirit be a "child"? If this means that he (uncle) is interacting with nonphysical entities that look like children (where they " born" and did he see that, too?), then that suggests thoughtform creation to me. edit #2 because I keep thinking of new things - If any of these people are having any type of nonphysical sexual interaction with their spirit spouse, THAT is most DEFINITELY a thoughtform entity - an entitized one - an incubus/succubus.
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Post by Barbelo Trad Witch🌹💙 on Sept 4, 2019 5:06:39 GMT
🌹💙 I don’t know much more than what I’ve mentioned. What my ex-wife told me was back around 1994, and I never met her uncle. He lived in Morocco and I never ever visited that country. However, to have heard my wife speak of such things, it was as though it was commonplace in countries such as this; that her uncle’s relationship with his spirit family was accepted as “part of the family.” Idk if it was a succubus or not—from my ex-wife’s lips, I interpreted it as her uncle’s spirit family was much more relevant and acceptable in that society—like relatives from across the tracks—you may not like them, but they are as real as any other relatives. It could have been Jinn or something similar such as the Yoruba found in Nigeria, as these spirit family relationships are also common in Africa. Regarding the Yoruba people of central Africa, they strongly believe in the struggle between destiny and fate, and they believe most profoundly in what’s known as “Atunwa,” which is REINCARNATION WITHIN THE FAMILY. I interpret that to mean that they don’t believe that physical death is a barrier at all—maybe their spirit families are a separate timeline, much of what was mentioned before with the man’s NDE family. It’s amazing what one’s strong beliefs will create! Very interesting.
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Post by Nataša on Sept 4, 2019 11:28:06 GMT
I'm fascinated by timelines and parallel universes. 5 years ago I watched a show on TLC about a girl who took an afternoon nap in her parents living room. When she woke up, she realized that she's not at her home anymore, but in somebody's else house. Then she looked at herself in the mirror and starts to scream because she sees a woman in her fifties. She was in early twenties when she fell asleep. She lost thirty years of her life in some bizarre time accident. Today she has a family and they are total strangers to her. Doctor called this "Alice in Wonderland" syndrome. Of course, no rational explanation for this woman's case. This show was about strange diseases and conditions.
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Post by sahib on Sept 7, 2019 16:45:33 GMT
Sorry SAS for not replying your question in your comment on my post from Aug 19 in the thread "Video 172: Vertical Time and Reincarnation", it must have slipped my attention.
So here I will answer your question:
Hi SAS,
I will try to explain it as simple as possible because it is more complex than you would think at first glance.
First I have to mention that you quoted a part of my answer to someone who thought that when we exit this Patrix our timeline will also be erased. And subsequently all our memories of our existence on Earth would be erased. But that is not the case!
When we die and our 'silver chord' snaps, we are separated from our body and returning into our body is definitely impossible.
We now enter the Astral Domain, which exists of several dimensions or worlds of a particular frequency and similarly densities.
Depending on your frequency (vibration) that you had during the transition after your death, you will end up in an area that suits you exactly. What you will experience immediately is different for every soul, because we create our own reality, your existence in the Astral Worlds will be determined by your beliefs / expectations.
People who have been convinced all their lives that there will be nothing after death will at first experience a 'big NOTHING' until they too become convinced of an afterlife.
When you arrive there you will remember everything that you have experienced in your last life on Earth, with all the details, the beautiful AND the less beautiful memories. But all the memories of interaction you had with all the people during lifetime will stay on Earth. You will be remembered by everybody who have known of your existence on Earth. By dying you will not erase the timeline you were in!
What we promote through this forum is the termination of being born again for a next new life on Earth. We do not want to experience this anymore and are looking for an opportunity to leave this Construct. The way how to do that is what Wes Penre has described in detail in his WPP.
This life here on Earth is a wonderful experience for a soul, but after so many reincarnations on Earth we also long to go home where we REALLY come from. To be as we really are again, divine spiritual beings. We actually are what is called a NAMLU'U. A androgynous non-physical being who is able to inhabit both a physical body or a non-physical body. A sovereign multi-dimensional being.
Much more can be said about this subject but I guess I have answered your question. If not please ask again.
(Maybe you've read this already because I've sent you a personal message too.)
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